Comments on: Difference between Managers and Leaders http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html Dealing with software projects in real life Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:07:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Pawel Brodzinski http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2070 Pawel Brodzinski Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:15:46 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2070 Jonathan,<br /><br />It works that way when whole work environment is screwed - usually when CEO is a yelling type of person. Then people around CEO tend to behave in the same way. And it goes recursively to lower levels of management.<br /><br />On the other hand when a company is managed by people who understand what true leadership is all about there's no "yelling culture" and managers as judged by their competence, not their loudness.<br /><br />I believe true leader can survive even in sick environment like the one you describe but it's very tiring and not many are willing to strive in the long run. Jonathan,

It works that way when whole work environment is screwed – usually when CEO is a yelling type of person. Then people around CEO tend to behave in the same way. And it goes recursively to lower levels of management.

On the other hand when a company is managed by people who understand what true leadership is all about there's no "yelling culture" and managers as judged by their competence, not their loudness.

I believe true leader can survive even in sick environment like the one you describe but it's very tiring and not many are willing to strive in the long run.

]]> By: Jonathan Becher http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2069 Jonathan Becher Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:49:27 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2069 Unfortunately, there's some evidence that management by yelling seems to work -- in that it gets managers noticed and therefore they are judged by other managers as more competent. http://alignment.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/survival-of-the-loudest/ Unfortunately, there's some evidence that management by yelling seems to work — in that it gets managers noticed and therefore they are judged by other managers as more competent. http://alignment.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/survival-of-the-loudest/

]]> By: Pawel Brodzinski http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2068 Pawel Brodzinski Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:04:30 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2068 I love the analogy with hiking. Yes, leaders are often quiet. You can do more using your influence than yelling at people. That's what leadership is all about. I love the analogy with hiking. Yes, leaders are often quiet. You can do more using your influence than yelling at people. That's what leadership is all about.

]]> By: batman567 http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2067 batman567 Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:03:36 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2067 very well put.<br /><br />i have the same experience in hiking:-<br /><br />the "manager" type is the loudest guy, at the front, reading the maps - trying to be a hike leader.<br /><br />a true leader can often be at the back supporting the weaker members, and only comes to the fore in a crisis - e.g. a medical emergency, or life-threatening situation.<br /><br />a good leader isn't necessarily the guy with the loudest voice - he is the guy everyone turns to when the going gets tough very well put.

i have the same experience in hiking:-

the "manager" type is the loudest guy, at the front, reading the maps – trying to be a hike leader.

a true leader can often be at the back supporting the weaker members, and only comes to the fore in a crisis – e.g. a medical emergency, or life-threatening situation.

a good leader isn't necessarily the guy with the loudest voice – he is the guy everyone turns to when the going gets tough

]]> By: Jeff Edwards http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2066 Jeff Edwards Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:37:00 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2066 There is also the famous statement, “Managers do things right, while leaders do the right things.”<br/><br/>I have always found leadership relatively easy to detect, but difficult to describe. My observation, however, doesn’t keep me from continually trying to describe it. Thanks for the posting. There is also the famous statement, “Managers do things right, while leaders do the right things.”

I have always found leadership relatively easy to detect, but difficult to describe. My observation, however, doesn’t keep me from continually trying to describe it. Thanks for the posting.

]]> By: Pawel Brodzinski http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2065 Pawel Brodzinski Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:30:00 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2065 Ability to compromise managerial role and personal contacts with team-members is one of the trickiest task for all bosses. Some think <a HREF="http://www.greatleadershipbydan.com/2008/12/drivers-and-passengers-and-other.html" REL="nofollow">it's not likely to be possible</a> but pesonally I don't agree.<br/><br/>Your story is interesting because of change of perspective - a nice guy after hours can't do a good job as a manager. I must admit I know of at least one C-level executive who suits to the picture. I still blame lack of leadership as a problem though. Ability to compromise managerial role and personal contacts with team-members is one of the trickiest task for all bosses. Some think it’s not likely to be possible but pesonally I don’t agree.

Your story is interesting because of change of perspective – a nice guy after hours can’t do a good job as a manager. I must admit I know of at least one C-level executive who suits to the picture. I still blame lack of leadership as a problem though.

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2064 Anonymous Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:15:00 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/2008/12/difference-between-managers-and-leaders.html#comment-2064 Being between jobs, and thinking over what I liked and had a harder time with at my last job, your text just hit the nail on the head. Makes me see myself and a couple of others old workmates in a new light. One bloke (and founder) that is really likable between 5 and 9, but not vice versa, had a hard time getting himself on top of everyone. People got annoyed, instead of inspired. Sorry for him, and sad for the rest of us. Being between jobs, and thinking over what I liked and had a harder time with at my last job, your text just hit the nail on the head. Makes me see myself and a couple of others old workmates in a new light. One bloke (and founder) that is really likable between 5 and 9, but not vice versa, had a hard time getting himself on top of everyone. People got annoyed, instead of inspired. Sorry for him, and sad for the rest of us.

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