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	<title>Comments on: The Kanban Story: First Issues</title>
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		<title>By: Pawel Brodzinski</title>
		<link>http://blog.brodzinski.com/2009/11/kanban-story-first-issues.html/comment-page-1#comment-2438</link>
		<dc:creator>Pawel Brodzinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meade,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, you can&#039;t say we have no real process here. Actually a range of options isn&#039;t limited just to named methodologies. We had process even before we have started thinking about Kanban. It was very light-weight too since for this specific team even Scrum is too heavy (this is my personal opinion).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another thing is what will happen when problems come. We can discuss what typically teams do when problems happen and it&#039;s rarely following the process, but this is subject for separate thread. When we talk about my current team I know how we will act when stuff happens. Actually I&#039;ve seen these people in action when stuff happened. This is one of main reasons why I chose them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meade,</p>
<p>First, you can&#39;t say we have no real process here. Actually a range of options isn&#39;t limited just to named methodologies. We had process even before we have started thinking about Kanban. It was very light-weight too since for this specific team even Scrum is too heavy (this is my personal opinion).</p>
<p>Another thing is what will happen when problems come. We can discuss what typically teams do when problems happen and it&#39;s rarely following the process, but this is subject for separate thread. When we talk about my current team I know how we will act when stuff happens. Actually I&#39;ve seen these people in action when stuff happened. This is one of main reasons why I chose them.</p>
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		<title>By: Meade</title>
		<link>http://blog.brodzinski.com/2009/11/kanban-story-first-issues.html/comment-page-1#comment-2437</link>
		<dc:creator>Meade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment &#039;We are too small and know each other too well to set up specific practices which enable communication or cooperation.&#039; - do you think that there is a risk in being to familiar and that the lack of known practices could be an issue when the pressure is turned on and &#039;stuff&#039; happens? I&#039;m thinking (and seen) where familiarity is good in the good times, but when &#039;stuff&#039; happens you have no real practice/process to fall back on and help sort things out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment &#39;We are too small and know each other too well to set up specific practices which enable communication or cooperation.&#39; &#8211; do you think that there is a risk in being to familiar and that the lack of known practices could be an issue when the pressure is turned on and &#39;stuff&#39; happens? I&#39;m thinking (and seen) where familiarity is good in the good times, but when &#39;stuff&#39; happens you have no real practice/process to fall back on and help sort things out.</p>
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		<title>By: Pawel Brodzinski</title>
		<link>http://blog.brodzinski.com/2009/11/kanban-story-first-issues.html/comment-page-1#comment-2436</link>
		<dc:creator>Pawel Brodzinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meade,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t know Crystal so I can&#039;t say. XP IS NOT a project management methodology. XP tells a lot about software development but almost nothing about project management. Scrum does. However I rejected Scrum for being too strict for our situation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are too small and know each other too well to set up specific practices which enable communication or cooperation. That just happens. If I worked with people I didn&#039;t know I would probably choose something more formalized. But in this specific situation all methods I used in the past were too formalized to what I needed (Scrum included).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There&#039;s basically one thing which Kanban provides which isn&#039;t so easily achievable with other standard methods. It is huge freedom when it comes to set up priorities on &quot;what&#039;s next&quot; while forcing you to finish what you have started. To give you more details - we start development of new feature every 3-4 days. This means I can effectively change priorities almost twice a week and it happened so a couple of times I was throwing away virtually everything from todo short list and putting there completely different tasks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This doesn&#039;t happen in other methods I know. Even in Scrum you have at least 2-week frozen in iteration before you can start new features.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course you can craft methodology just for you which incorporates this and that&#039;s exactly &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.brodzinski.com/2009/10/kanban-story-initial-methodology.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what we have started with&lt;/a&gt;. The problem was we weren&#039;t forced to finish tasks which we had started.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having said all of that I don&#039;t really care whether Kanban can be considered as a fully though PM methodology (it definitely isn&#039;t SDLC approach) as far as it works for me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And thanks for these questions. A food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meade,</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know Crystal so I can&#39;t say. XP IS NOT a project management methodology. XP tells a lot about software development but almost nothing about project management. Scrum does. However I rejected Scrum for being too strict for our situation.</p>
<p>We are too small and know each other too well to set up specific practices which enable communication or cooperation. That just happens. If I worked with people I didn&#39;t know I would probably choose something more formalized. But in this specific situation all methods I used in the past were too formalized to what I needed (Scrum included).</p>
<p>There&#39;s basically one thing which Kanban provides which isn&#39;t so easily achievable with other standard methods. It is huge freedom when it comes to set up priorities on &quot;what&#39;s next&quot; while forcing you to finish what you have started. To give you more details &#8211; we start development of new feature every 3-4 days. This means I can effectively change priorities almost twice a week and it happened so a couple of times I was throwing away virtually everything from todo short list and putting there completely different tasks.</p>
<p>This doesn&#39;t happen in other methods I know. Even in Scrum you have at least 2-week frozen in iteration before you can start new features.</p>
<p>Of course you can craft methodology just for you which incorporates this and that&#39;s exactly <a href="http://blog.brodzinski.com/2009/10/kanban-story-initial-methodology.html" rel="nofollow">what we have started with</a>. The problem was we weren&#39;t forced to finish tasks which we had started.</p>
<p>Having said all of that I don&#39;t really care whether Kanban can be considered as a fully though PM methodology (it definitely isn&#39;t SDLC approach) as far as it works for me.</p>
<p>And thanks for these questions. A food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Meade</title>
		<link>http://blog.brodzinski.com/2009/11/kanban-story-first-issues.html/comment-page-1#comment-2435</link>
		<dc:creator>Meade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Question(s):&lt;br /&gt;What has Kanban provided that you think XP, Crystal or any other approach would not have OR would have?  I&#039;m not 100% sold Kanban is a fully thought out PM/SDLC approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Question(s):<br />What has Kanban provided that you think XP, Crystal or any other approach would not have OR would have?  I&#39;m not 100% sold Kanban is a fully thought out PM/SDLC approach.</p>
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