Comments on: Best Practices: Continuous Build http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/best-practices-continuous-build.html Dealing with software projects in real life Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:07:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Pawel Brodzinski http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/best-practices-continuous-build.html#comment-14538 Pawel Brodzinski Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:15:12 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/?p=1849#comment-14538 Yes, build server alone is not continuous integration. It is just a starting point. On the other hand, besides your example, I know no teams which deals well without build server in terms of test automation, code analysis etc. I consider continuous build as a starting point and prerequisite for many other engineering practices. You may run without build server at the moment but I'm sure if you were starting the project once again you would setup one. I'm also not so sure it wouldn't make sense to get one for the project now. You can't be sure how long all of your team members would be in place. What if someone leaves? I think newbies would appreciate having build server. And this is always good for testers too. Yes, build server alone is not continuous integration. It is just a starting point. On the other hand, besides your example, I know no teams which deals well without build server in terms of test automation, code analysis etc.

I consider continuous build as a starting point and prerequisite for many other engineering practices. You may run without build server at the moment but I’m sure if you were starting the project once again you would setup one. I’m also not so sure it wouldn’t make sense to get one for the project now. You can’t be sure how long all of your team members would be in place. What if someone leaves? I think newbies would appreciate having build server.
And this is always good for testers too.

]]> By: Szymon Pobiega http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/best-practices-continuous-build.html#comment-14530 Szymon Pobiega Mon, 14 Jun 2010 08:51:38 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/?p=1849#comment-14530 I think you expected me to comment about that, Pawel;) To clarify, I like continuous integration. But integration is way more, than building. If you don't have _good_ unit/integration tests, having a build server gives you close to nothing. I recently worked on a team where we had a set of unit tests covering over 90% of our code, and (at least in my opinion) these tests were of good quality. We had a habit of first executing all the tests, then committing to source control system. It worked for us. We were all the build servers. For the team of 3 people sitting in one room is was enough. But as you said many times, collocation solves many problems that otherwise need sophisticated tools. I think you expected me to comment about that, Pawel;) To clarify, I like continuous integration. But integration is way more, than building. If you don’t have _good_ unit/integration tests, having a build server gives you close to nothing.

I recently worked on a team where we had a set of unit tests covering over 90% of our code, and (at least in my opinion) these tests were of good quality. We had a habit of first executing all the tests, then committing to source control system. It worked for us. We were all the build servers. For the team of 3 people sitting in one room is was enough.

But as you said many times, collocation solves many problems that otherwise need sophisticated tools.

]]> By: Pawel Brodzinski http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/best-practices-continuous-build.html#comment-14331 Pawel Brodzinski Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:49:53 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/?p=1849#comment-14331 Well, I used to work in this kind of environment. It was a bit easier because we were working in silos so we cared only about out silo, which was like 100 engineers. I have a couple of friends working for a local branch of a big shop and they have engineering side of their work organized well. At least in terms of continuous integration. This isn't my personal experience though. Well, I used to work in this kind of environment. It was a bit easier because we were working in silos so we cared only about out silo, which was like 100 engineers.

I have a couple of friends working for a local branch of a big shop and they have engineering side of their work organized well. At least in terms of continuous integration. This isn’t my personal experience though.

]]> By: jfbauer http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/best-practices-continuous-build.html#comment-14298 jfbauer Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:53:24 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/?p=1849#comment-14298 Sage advice ... anyone work for a large corporate IT shop and achieved a relative continuous performance/functional test environment/methodology? I'd love to hear from you. Sage advice … anyone work for a large corporate IT shop and achieved a relative continuous performance/functional test environment/methodology? I’d love to hear from you.

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