Comments on: Learning Project Management Basics http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/learning-project-management-basics.html Dealing with software projects in real life Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:07:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Elena http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/learning-project-management-basics.html#comment-16616 Elena Fri, 02 Jul 2010 01:56:29 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/?p=1873#comment-16616 The reverse is also true, at least for me. As a project manager I now apply my knowledge to everyday projects just like the ones you mentioned - vacations, birthday parties, home remodeling, gardening. I guess it's a force of habit :) The reverse is also true, at least for me. As a project manager I now apply my knowledge to everyday projects just like the ones you mentioned – vacations, birthday parties, home remodeling, gardening. I guess it’s a force of habit :)

]]> By: Pawel Brodzinski http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/learning-project-management-basics.html#comment-16479 Pawel Brodzinski Thu, 01 Jul 2010 06:48:39 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/?p=1873#comment-16479 Josh, I don't say "don't read books at all." Neither I say "courses are the source of all evil." My point is you can get this kind of answers pretty much everywhere. And what people often overlook is that knowledge is at hand, it's enough to overtake some effort to gain it. Then, it's up to you which tools you choose to support your practical experience. These can be books, courses, certifications or just learning from colleagues (which is also frequently forgotten). Josh,

I don’t say “don’t read books at all.” Neither I say “courses are the source of all evil.” My point is you can get this kind of answers pretty much everywhere. And what people often overlook is that knowledge is at hand, it’s enough to overtake some effort to gain it.

Then, it’s up to you which tools you choose to support your practical experience. These can be books, courses, certifications or just learning from colleagues (which is also frequently forgotten).

]]> By: Josh Nankivel http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/learning-project-management-basics.html#comment-16456 Josh Nankivel Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:28:59 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/?p=1873#comment-16456 Loved the post Pawel! Thanks for the links to my articles, although I may be a bit more in the middle I fully agree that gaining experience is the way to start. The flip side is that IF you will learn a great deal through the process of studying for a certification or getting a degree, it can be a good thing. As I warned in my article though, "If you do seek education in project management, I would like to add that it’s value is greatly diminished unless you are actively working in a project environment where you can implement the concepts you are learning, or at least use a real project environment as a means for comparing “book learning” to real life." -Josh Loved the post Pawel! Thanks for the links to my articles, although I may be a bit more in the middle I fully agree that gaining experience is the way to start.

The flip side is that IF you will learn a great deal through the process of studying for a certification or getting a degree, it can be a good thing. As I warned in my article though,

“If you do seek education in project management, I would like to add that it’s value is greatly diminished unless you are actively working in a project environment where you can implement the concepts you are learning, or at least use a real project environment as a means for comparing “book learning” to real life.”

-Josh

]]> By: Pawel Brodzinski http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/learning-project-management-basics.html#comment-16426 Pawel Brodzinski Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:42:40 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/?p=1873#comment-16426 And that's exactly what I meant in the last sentence. When we think about general attitude learning leadership, which is way more difficult than learning project management, will use exactly the same pattern. I guess we could push it even further to many so-called soft skills and the attitude would work the same. I'm just not so sure if it is omitted as frequently as in project management or leadership cases. I.e. sportsmen seem to understand this model very well. And that’s exactly what I meant in the last sentence. When we think about general attitude learning leadership, which is way more difficult than learning project management, will use exactly the same pattern.

I guess we could push it even further to many so-called soft skills and the attitude would work the same. I’m just not so sure if it is omitted as frequently as in project management or leadership cases. I.e. sportsmen seem to understand this model very well.

]]> By: Piotr Nabielec http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/learning-project-management-basics.html#comment-16423 Piotr Nabielec Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:27:56 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/?p=1873#comment-16423 Absolutely agree, too. And I found this advice in the book which I loved - 'Axiom' by Bill Hybels - 'Lead something'. There are tens of two-three pages long 'axioms' in that book about leadership - 'lead something' is just one of them. For me project manager vs leader is quite similar, skills may be different, but attitude not. Absolutely agree, too. And I found this advice in the book which I loved – ‘Axiom’ by Bill Hybels – ‘Lead something’. There are tens of two-three pages long ‘axioms’ in that book about leadership – ‘lead something’ is just one of them. For me project manager vs leader is quite similar, skills may be different, but attitude not.

]]> By: Pawel Brodzinski http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/learning-project-management-basics.html#comment-16407 Pawel Brodzinski Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:41:00 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/?p=1873#comment-16407 What I find interesting is how rarely you find this kind of advice. Go get some experience, even if will happen in a sandbox. I guess it is because no one makes money from the advice. What I find interesting is how rarely you find this kind of advice. Go get some experience, even if will happen in a sandbox. I guess it is because no one makes money from the advice.

]]> By: Karol Zielinski http://blog.brodzinski.com/2010/06/learning-project-management-basics.html#comment-16406 Karol Zielinski Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:23:04 +0000 http://blog.brodzinski.com/?p=1873#comment-16406 Absolutely agree. The best way to became a project manager is to manage a project (even your own, simple project or a project for your friend). Practical knowledge is the most important thing. All kind of books and certificates are additions (sometimes these are really important additions, but... still additions and nothing more). Absolutely agree. The best way to became a project manager is to manage a project (even your own, simple project or a project for your friend). Practical knowledge is the most important thing. All kind of books and certificates are additions (sometimes these are really important additions, but… still additions and nothing more).

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